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Video 136

A Trinity of Watchtower Trinity Scriptures

Dear Jehovah’s Witnesses, I apologize for the delay in getting this promised video done. Working on the website took more time than I anticipated. During that time, I met, so to speak, a very brilliant Jehovah’s Witness commenting on the videos. He pointed out to me that I was ignorant, so I thought it a good idea to have him help me out a bit in explaining something to about Jesus.

He said, among many other things:

We do believe in the deity of Jesus. Isaiah 9:6 calls him “Mighty God.” John 1:1 calls him “divine” or “a god.” John 1:18 calls him the only begotten god.” However, Jesus’ Father is the only true God.
A JW, cbooth151, commenting on Video 120

I was cautiously pleased to learn that Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in the deity of Christ. Apparently, however, this JW does not believe as the Watchtower believes.

For all eternity, the glorified Son of God will continue to lead all intelligent creatures in the worship of this one and true living Deity, Jehovah.
Watchtower – April 1, 1987, p16 par5
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Oops? The Watchtower ascribes the name “Jehovah” to the Father alone, and tells us that He is the ONLY true living Deity. Jesus could not be true Deity if the Father is the only true Deity? Doesn’t that go without saying? I guess not, for Jehovah’s Witnesses, because cbooth151 was making an identical point that Jesus is a god, but Jehovah is the only true God. Doesn’t that statement mean, naturally that Jesus is a false god??

I keep making the point that Jehovah’s Witnesses may be allowed their own Bible, but not their own dictionary, and certainly not their own twisted, confusing version of the English Language.

Let’s not kid ourselves, the Watchtower does NOT believe in the Deity of Christ.

This would mean that “great God” and “Savior” would both be descriptive of Jesus, as if the meaning were ‘of Jesus Christ, the great God and our Savior.’

Persons inclined to believe in the deity of Jesus sometimes give the impression that the above position is demanded by proper Greek grammar.
Watchtower – April 1, 1981, p31
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The very expressions of those involved often reveal that, while they clearly recognized Jesus as God’s representative, they rendered obeisance to him, not as to God or a deity, but as “God’s Son,” the foretold “Son of man,” the Messiah with divine authority.
Watchtower – November 15, 1970, p703
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So, our brilliant friend does not believe as the Watchtower does if he believes in the deity of Jesus. I would like to think he was speaking for himself, but he used the word, “we”. The question is, for whom was he speaking when He said, “We do believe in the deity of Jesus”? Hmm. Interesting.

He said:

Isaiah 9:6 calls him “Mighty God.”

The very same prophet, in the next chapter, Isaiah 10, verse 21, calls Jehovah the Mighty God. Jesus is called Mighty God. Jehovah is called the Mighty God. 

He said:

John 1:1 calls him “divine” or “a god.”

The New World Translation’s footnote on Joshua 22:22 says Jehovah is the Divine One, and Jehovah calls Himself a God at Exodus 20:5. And there are numerous other references to Jehovah as “a God” in the bible. So Jesus called Divine. Jehovah is called Divine. Jesus is called a God. Jehovah is called a God.

He said:

John 1:18 calls him the only begotten god.”

Thank you. That interesting translation makes the point I have been trying to make to you, Jehovah’s Witnesses for a long time. The only one that could be begotten of God, must Himself be God. Whatever the Father is, the Son must be! Not an angel. Not a mere man. Not an animal, but a God, or God. I am not Human with a capital H and my daughter a human with a common H. (I said that because I don’t’ have a son.) You don’t have Man with a capital M, and his son is by definition a man, with a common M.

If Isaiah 9 calls Jesus, “Mighty God” - an adjective and a noun. How can I be wrong in leaving off the adjective and saying Jesus is God? I have in previous videos demonstrated that terms used for God have been attributed to Jesus. Now we see the very terms used for Jesus being attributed to God. I’ll give you one last one Jehovah’s love to cite, but apparently love to site without thinking.

there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
1 Corinthians 8:6

If Jehovah is the one and only True God, why is the word, “God” being attributed to Jesus in the Bible? And if Jesus is the one and only True Lord, why is the word, “Lord” being attributed to God? Don’t you see the CLEAR interchange in the Scriptures?

Dear Jehovah’s Witnesses. If Jesus is the one Lord, but not Deity, how is the Father the One Lord, and Deity to be worshipped, if that is not confusion what is? If Satan is a god, but not the God to be worshipped, and Jesus is a God, but not the God to be worshipped, when will your eyes be open to the reality that you are placing Jesus and Satan on the same level?

My hope, my desire, my intention is that you all will get to the place where this brilliant Jehovah’s Witness has gotten – to that place where you all accept the Deity of Christ, for only then will you really understand the real beauty of the gospel.

Now to a Trinity of Watchtower Trinity verses. I said Watchtower Trinity Scriptures because I will be using the New World Translation. Trinity is really tri-unity, a unity of three. You will also see how these three passages of Scripture are working in perfect unity to help you understand how the Trinity is united for your salvation.

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
Matthew 28:19 - NWT

By the way, I am making the video scripts available on the website, so I use Microsoft Word to spell-check and grammar-check them. Guess what, Jehovah’s Witnesses? Microsoft Word is prompting me to correct the common letters used for Holy Spirit in the New World Translation. How interesting is that, that a secular organization has greater respect for the Holy Spirit than a Christian one?

Anyhow, back on topic. Since the Father alone is God, in your eyes, why are we getting baptized in the name of God, his Son who is not the true God, and His active force? Is it not sufficient for Jehovah alone (as you understand Him) to save us? Why does he need the help of two? Anyhow, here we see the three in unity for our salvation.

Trinity Scripture number 2: John 14:26

But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you.
John 14:26 - NWT

Here we see, according to the Watchtower, God again needing a Helper to save us, and He will send the Helper, not in His name, but in the name of Jesus? Why not in His name, Jehovah? It becomes even more interesting that in John 15:26 Jesus declares that He Jesus, the Son, will indeed send the Helper from the Father. Do you mean the Son directing God’s Holy Spirit? I can just hear you telling me yes, because the Father gave Him all authority? Anyhow, I hope you see the three in unity to save us.

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When the helper comes that I will send you from the Father, the spirit of the truth, which comes from the Father, that one will bear witness about me;
John 15:26 - NWT

Here is the third Watchtower Trinity Text. John 15:13-14

However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you.
John 15:13-14 - NWT

Wait a minute? God’s active force not speaking on his own? Speaking what He hears from the Son? Glorifying the Son? Why not the father? So what do we have here? The Father the Head of the Son, and the Son the Head of the Father’s Spirit? How can that be if the Father’s spirit is not a separate entity? Anyhow, whether you want to believe the Holy Spirit is a thing or a person, you cannot deny that the Spirit of the Divine One, must himself, or itself (whichever you choose) be Divine as well. But this verse makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is separate from the Father, since Jesus will send him or it, from the Father.

What cannot be denied here is that there are three DIVINE beings, or three Divine ones, acting in unity for your salvation.

You see, Jehovah’s Witnesses, there is a bit of a problem with Your God. Jesus, a god, was created after Your God, who you see as the Father only.

But no God was formed after my God, who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none.
Isaiah 43:10 - NWT

Your God created a lesser god and sent that lesser god to die for me. My God did not send a creature to die for me; He sent a part of Himself. Yes. That is why your Bible translates Acts 20:28, telling you that God purchased you with the blood of His own Son, but my Bible says He purchased me with His own blood. Because the Son of your God was just a creature of God, so He did not have God’s blood, so to speak. But my Jesus was not a creature of God, but God’s own flesh and blood, so to speak.

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Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own Son.
Acts 20:28 – NWT

 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Acts 20:28 – KJV

My Bible sees the blood of Jesus as the very blood of God. Your Bible, says, “Hell no! That is Jesus’ blood. Not God’s blood.”

Yes, apart from your God, who you see as the Father only, you have another Savior – Jesus. But apart from my God, who I see as Father, Son and Holy Spirt, there is no other Savior.

I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
Isaiah 43:11 - NWT

Your God, which is the Father only, is not really the Almighty. Just like he needs two helpers to save you, He also needed help to create the world. But my triune God, Father Son and Holy Spirit, is the Almighty creator of the universe who needed no help.

“I am Jehovah, who made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself, And I spread out the earth. Who was with me?
Isaiah 44:24

I have no doubt, some of you, Jehovah’s Witnesses, are finding this a bit confusing. That is because your God is limited. Your God is one-dimensional. Mine is not.

Jehovah then said: “Look! They are one people with one language, and this is what they have started to do. Now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be impossible for them. 7 Come! Let us go down there and confuse their language …
Genesis 11:6-7 - NWT

Jehovah God then said: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad …
Genesis 3:22 - NWT

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness …
Genesis 1:26 – NWT

Made in God’s image, I am also three dimensional. I am body, mind and spirit. Or, if you prefer, there is the physical me, the carnal me, and the spiritual me. But God’s three-dimensional nature is exceedingly greater, beyond our wildest imagination – and Trinitarians did not conjure up this principle. The Bible did.

So, when your reference Bible shows manuscripts that ascribe the name Jehovah to Jesus, it is because the name Jehovah can indeed be applied to the Father, as to the Son, as to the Holy Spirit. That is why Matthew 28:19 did not speak to the names (plural) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirt, but the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
Matthew 28:19